Comments on: Climbing up onto my Soapbox http://braunhaus.org/interrobang/2008/08/08/climbing-up-onto-my-soapbox/ What were you expecting?! Thu, 14 Apr 2011 14:32:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Alex V. http://braunhaus.org/interrobang/2008/08/08/climbing-up-onto-my-soapbox/comment-page-1/#comment-47 Alex V. Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:34:59 +0000 http://braunhaus.org/interrobang/?p=90#comment-47 Oh, I'm sure I did :P But I just can't sit by and let you make broad generalisations that paint a bleak picture of your children's future, now can I? Oh, I’m sure I did :P But I just can’t sit by and let you make broad generalisations that paint a bleak picture of your children’s future, now can I?

]]> By: Adam http://braunhaus.org/interrobang/2008/08/08/climbing-up-onto-my-soapbox/comment-page-1/#comment-46 Adam Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:03:13 +0000 http://braunhaus.org/interrobang/?p=90#comment-46 Alex, there was an implied paranthetical to my statements regarding the people I was referencing... "No one (the complainers, whiners, hand-out seekers, career welfare recipients, and all those who trumpet the virtue and rights of all those people merely as a way to grind their axes against corporations, the rich, or anyone they want to blame for society's ills merely as a way to gain their own publicity) wants to be accountable..." It was broad, yes, but I was pretty sure you knew what I was getting at. Alex, there was an implied paranthetical to my statements regarding the people I was referencing…

“No one (the complainers, whiners, hand-out seekers, career welfare recipients, and all those who trumpet the virtue and rights of all those people merely as a way to grind their axes against corporations, the rich, or anyone they want to blame for society’s ills merely as a way to gain their own publicity) wants to be accountable…”

It was broad, yes, but I was pretty sure you knew what I was getting at.

]]> By: Alex V. http://braunhaus.org/interrobang/2008/08/08/climbing-up-onto-my-soapbox/comment-page-1/#comment-45 Alex V. Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:22:30 +0000 http://braunhaus.org/interrobang/?p=90#comment-45 Adam, I disagree with your broad generalisation. Many people want to to be accountable for their own choices. Many people want consequence. And many people expect them. The problem is that these people do not make news. These people are the oft-referenced "silent majority." There are many in politics who are actually there because they want to make a difference, and because they believe that they can make a difference. Think of how many people we have in Congress. Now think of how many of them you actually hear about. Do you ever hear the names of the representatives and the Senators who are doing the right thing? Unless they are from your district, probably not. Instead, you hear about the schmucks and the losers. As disappointed as I am with many in the system, I refuse to believe that all are corrupt, and that all have gone astray. And yes, I totally agree that what many people trumpet as "rights" truly are privileges. There was a time when people recognised this. I blame FDR and the New Deal for the shift. Adam, I disagree with your broad generalisation. Many people want to to be accountable for their own choices. Many people want consequence. And many people expect them. The problem is that these people do not make news. These people are the oft-referenced “silent majority.” There are many in politics who are actually there because they want to make a difference, and because they believe that they can make a difference. Think of how many people we have in Congress. Now think of how many of them you actually hear about. Do you ever hear the names of the representatives and the Senators who are doing the right thing? Unless they are from your district, probably not. Instead, you hear about the schmucks and the losers.

As disappointed as I am with many in the system, I refuse to believe that all are corrupt, and that all have gone astray. And yes, I totally agree that what many people trumpet as “rights” truly are privileges. There was a time when people recognised this. I blame FDR and the New Deal for the shift.

]]> By: Adam http://braunhaus.org/interrobang/2008/08/08/climbing-up-onto-my-soapbox/comment-page-1/#comment-44 Adam Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:57:03 +0000 http://braunhaus.org/interrobang/?p=90#comment-44 Amen, brotha. No one wants to be accountable for their own choices in life. No one wants consequences. And most left-wingers are the reason these notions are perpetuated. It's a pretty cool message they've got: free everything...no matter what you choose to do with your life!! Yay. Everyone is a winner. Amen, brotha. No one wants to be accountable for their own choices in life. No one wants consequences. And most left-wingers are the reason these notions are perpetuated. It’s a pretty cool message they’ve got: free everything…no matter what you choose to do with your life!! Yay. Everyone is a winner.

]]> By: Melissa http://braunhaus.org/interrobang/2008/08/08/climbing-up-onto-my-soapbox/comment-page-1/#comment-43 Melissa Sat, 09 Aug 2008 13:41:39 +0000 http://braunhaus.org/interrobang/?p=90#comment-43 I'm just curious as to what started this trip on the soapbox. Yesterday I heard some pretty awful politician news myself (John Edwards' admission that he had an affair), and I was heartbroken. I agree that elected official should respect the position and respect the people. I wonder, though, if it actually is possible to make it to the top without being corrupt. This is clearly not the same thing AT ALL, but I have been reading The Other Bolyn Girl, and one of the main ideas is that it is not possible to be at court without being corrupted. No one is safe from the sex and lies and money and everything that goes along with it. I am starting to think that United States politics, at least on the national level, isn't much different. I'm not sure where that leaves me, though. I’m just curious as to what started this trip on the soapbox. Yesterday I heard some pretty awful politician news myself (John Edwards’ admission that he had an affair), and I was heartbroken.

I agree that elected official should respect the position and respect the people. I wonder, though, if it actually is possible to make it to the top without being corrupt. This is clearly not the same thing AT ALL, but I have been reading The Other Bolyn Girl, and one of the main ideas is that it is not possible to be at court without being corrupted. No one is safe from the sex and lies and money and everything that goes along with it. I am starting to think that United States politics, at least on the national level, isn’t much different.

I’m not sure where that leaves me, though.

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